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Focus on Efficiency: Steam Heating

There are lessons we can learn from New York City, which was the first major city to have an energy benchmarking rule, requiring owners of large buildings to report (not necessarily, reduce) energy usage. Several years of data confirm what most New Yorkers know: most residents live in multifamily buildings 50 or more years old (built when energy was plentiful and cheap), using steam-generating boilers for heating. These systems are complex, not designed with efficiency in mind, and old, a bad combination. Many potential upgrades are complex and expensive, so most owners wait for the system to virtually break down before upgrading. In addition, many years ago there was very bad publicity about certain managers who intentionally withheld heat from tenants to get them to leave (to re-rent units at higher rates). To avoid such publicity, most owners now willingly incur the cost of inefficiency to give too much heat to tenants. It is not unusual to walk around NYC and see open windows when the outside temperature is well below freezing!

With this large housing stock and together with NYC Sustainability Office’s goal of reducing GHG emissions by 80% by 2050, there is impetus to promoting upgrades of cranky, ancient steam systems. Other cities are taking note. The USDOE estimates that 2.5 million multi-family buildings are steam-heated nationwide.

The key to achieving success in making steam systems in so many buildings more energy efficient is to convince owners to invest in them and demand results, a difficult matter to educate them on.

NYC’s Office of Sustainability estimates that if every large, steam-heated building in New York City performed only fairly simple upgrades, its building-based GHG emissions could be cut by about 5%. This includes annual tune-ups for boilers and burners and insulating pipes in steam or hot water service (including condensate return pipes). NYC has rules which mandate steam production when the outdoor temperature drops below a certain point. As a result, many control systems regulate boiler operation based on outdoor temperature only. However, more efficient control systems can react to indoor temperatures pinpointing areas to deliver steam in apartments that need it, closing certain radiator valves, if unnecessary. Some valve systems can be controlled by the tenant, allowing residents to control the steam flow to the unit rather than receiving full load and opening windows to the cold outdoor air.

Such simple actions to improve a steam system’s efficiency can reduce heating fuel use by about 15%, saving building owners $10,000 to $30,000 annually.

But besides the money savings, it’s important to show building owners that such upgrades are quite achievable and risk-free; teaching them that these simple steps have worked for others and will work in their systems. It’s important to counter the defeatist attitude of: “Oh, my system is so old, nothing will ever work to make it better!” Emphasize these steps are simple and will work successfully. While we, as engineers, understand that, it is difficult to express this to clients, as it is part of our nature to be careful and not overpromise, while they do not want to hear about risk.

CCES has the experts to help you evaluate your steam boiler system and recommend small or large upgrades to be more efficient, save utility costs, and provide assurance of comfort to your tenants. Contact us today at 914-584-6720 or at karell@CCESworld.com.

USEPA Proposes Revisions To PSD And Title V GHG Permitting Rules

On October 3, 2016, the USEPA published a proposed rule to revise the Prevention of Significant Deterioration (PSD) and Title V Greenhouse Gas (GHG) Permitting Rules in reaction to a US Supreme Court ruling in 2014 (https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=EPA-HQ-OAR-2015-0355-0001).

The most critical change is that the proposed rule would provide a Significant Emissions Rate (“SER”) for GHGs, 75,000 tpy CO2e SER. An applicant that is subject to PSD because proposes to build and operate a new facility or to an expand an existing one that would cause emissions of an existing PSD pollutant to rise by more than its significant level (an “anyway” source) and also GHGs by at least this amount would need to have performed a Best Available Control Technology (“BACT”) analysis for both the subject PSD pollutant and GHGs, as well. Previously addressing GHGs as part of a PSD Permit was limited to “anyway” sources (not sources that exceed a de minimis for GHGs). The proposed revision would prevent the USEPA from exempting from GHG BACT requirements “anyway” sources if it proposes to emit GHGs above the SER guideline.

The proposed rule would also revise several definitions, including a definition of GHGs itself and of CO2 equivalents (CO2e). GHGs is any of a group of 6 compounds, including CO2, N2O, CH4, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons and sulfur hexafluoride. CO2e is calculated by taking the tons per year emission totals of each compound (or set of compounds) and multiplying this by its “global warming potential” published in the rule, and summing them. The proposed rule also provides for the exclusion of GHG emissions from “major source” and “major modification” determinations.

The comment period of the proposed rule is over. Of course, with the new administration taking over in January, it is unknown whether the new USEPA administrator will drop these proposed changes and not have any action about GHG emissions and permitting under the Clean Air Act.

CCES has the experts to allow your facility to make the technical decisions concerning air emissions and compliance with GHG and Clean Air Act rules. Contact us today at 914-584-6720 or at karell@CCESworld.com.

Climate Change News and Notes: November 2016

The Paris Climate Change Agreement Goes Into Effect This Month

On November 4, 2016, the Paris Agreement went into effect. What is next? The signatories must implement its terms and help meet their own goals and perhaps do better. The central aim of the Agreement is to strengthen the global response to the threat of climate change by holding the increase in the global average temperature to below 2°C, recognizing that this would significantly reduce the risks and impacts of climate change. The Paris Agreement is also meant to strengthen the abilities of countries to adapt to deleterious impacts of climate change by helping one another out both technologically and financially.

Before The Paris Agreement each country prepared its own plan to reduce GHG emissions or Nationally Determined Contributions (NDCs), an implementation plan. Now the nations must implement their plans. Of course, adding complexity to this problem is the election of Donald Trump as President of the US, the second largest emitter of GHGs, who has said he will have the US repeal its portion and obligations of this Agreement, as well as its economic contribution. This led to much criticism. It will be interesting to see what he does when he comes to office on January 20, 2017.

President Obama Directs Agencies To Consider National Security Impacts Of Climate Change

On September 21, 2016, President Obama issued a Memorandum titled Climate Change and National Security. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/09/21/presidential-memorandum-climate-change-and-national-security). The purpose of the Memorandum is to ensure that in the development of national security doctrine, policies, and plans climate change-related impacts are fully considered. The Memorandum establishes the Climate and National Security Working Group, to be made up of representatives from various federal agencies, including the USEPA, the Council on Environmental Quality, and the USDOE. The Working Group will ultimately develop recommendations for agencies such as the Departments of State, Defense, and Homeland Security. The Memorandum is expected to be revoked by the next administration. The Working Group is expected to issue its Action Plan, outlining specific objectives and milestones for carrying out the policies identified in the Memorandum.

CCES can help your company evaluate how Climate Change affects your operations and the various physical and regulatory risks associated with it. We can work with you to reduce your GHG emissions and realize the maximum financial benefits that go with smart strategies. Contact us today at karell@CCESworld.com or at 914-584-6720.

Study Shows Effects of Green Building Conditions on Human Performance

People spend about 90% of the time indoors. Therefore, the indoor built environment plays a critical role in our health and our ability to function at our jobs and as people. A major study by the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health’s Center for Health and the Global Environment was designed to evaluate the effects of different indoor environmental quality parameters found in green and conventional buildings on human performance. See: http://www.chgeharvard.org/resource/impact-green-buildings-cognitive-function

The study had 24 people spend 6 full work-days in different controlled office environments, representative of conventional and “green” office buildings. Participants spent time in office space either with indoor air containing a “conventional” concentration of volatile organic compounds (VOCs); indoor air with a much lower concentration of VOCs typical of “green” buildings; or indoor air with the lower concentration of VOCs and an enhanced ventilation rate. Participants were not told what the conditions were in which they were working.

At the end of each day, participants were tested to evaluate live decision making capabilities by simulating real-world scenarios. On average, cognitive scores were 61% better for workers exposed to indoor air with lower VOC concentrations compared to conventional air quality and were 101% higher for workers exposed to the lower VOC concentration with the enhanced ventilation compared to those exposed to the conventional VOC concentration and ventilation.

Additional studies were performed exposing workers to different indoor levels of CO2 and determining performance. Correlation of improved performance to green building scenarios was also measured.

These studies provide further demonstration that properties that lead a building to be designated as “green” have real-time positive effect on a person’s performance in the workplace and on health.

CCES can help your buildings evaluate and implement changes to become more “green” and maximize the positive benefits of such upgrades, such as tenant performance and happiness, cost savings, reduced O&M, etc. Contact us for more information today at karell@CCESworld.com or at 914-584-6720.

The Future Of Energy And Environmental Policies In A Trump Administration

November 10, 2016

Last month I wrote an article about the potential course of events for environmental and energy policies if either presidential candidate was elected. Now we know there will be a Donald Trump administration. So first I will repeat the thoughts about what a Trump administration might look like when it comes to energy/environmental policy, and I’ll present some early policy areas being considered. Nothing here is written in favor or against any policy, but future issues facing the energy/environmental professional.

Energy: Donald Trump has been severely critical of current energy and environmental policy and has stated he will reverse many of President Obama’s initiatives. During a May 26 speech, Trump reflected a desire to achieve US energy independence by reducing federal regulations on the energy industry, increase investments in fossil fuel development and infrastructure to bring it to market (such as supporting the Keystone Pipeline), and reduce federal investment in renewable energy, as he has criticized both solar and wind power. Trump also supports increased use of nuclear power.

Environment: Trump has stated he would rescind a number of President Obama’s environmental rules, such as the Clean Power Plan. As a real estate developer, Trump has a particular aversion to environmental rules which he felt has cost him unnecessary money and delayed his projects. He has also specifically pointed to the Clean Water Act as another regulation he would greatly weaken. Reversing or weakening these and other EPA rules would require EPA rulemaking, requiring a public notice process. A Trump Justice Department may just not defend these and other environmental rules when challenged in court by industry. Neither approach would ensure success, as environmental and other groups would surely marshal forces in defense of the rules. Furthermore, courts could rule that these regulations are valid, legal, and necessary.

Climate Change: Trump stated on the campaign trail several times that climate change has not been proven. However, closer to the election, he was more neutral about the topic. He certainly feels it is not a high priority. He has expressed his intention to withdraw the US from the Paris Climate Agreement, which may be difficult to do. Trump could do as little as possible to implement it, which has weak enforcement mechanisms. He has also stated he would stop all US payments toward UN climate change initiatives.

Early Steps

One of Trump’s main advisors on environmental issues is Myron Ebell, a known climate change denier. There is speculation that he may be put in charge of the EPA. Mr. Ebell has been very critical of not only climate change, but also of recent Obama environmental rules. There is speculation that he may even call for the repeal of signature environmental rules, such as the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act, and the dismantling of the EPA. This would likely require passage by Congress. Both houses of Congress are controlled by Republican majorities, but slim ones. There are many Republicans who believe in climate change and environmental rules or live in districts with constituents who would be bothered by radical change like this.

Published reports have stated that Mike McKenna has been a major advisor for the transition team on energy issues. He is a former DOE employee, and has been a lobbyist for several oil & gas and chemical companies. It is believed that a Trump-led DOE and Republican Congress would open up more federal land for oil exploration and encourage more coal production by repealing rules discouraging it. This would lead to greater energy supply, lowering prices for consumers, but also potentially raising risks of costly environmental damage. Many have argued that with other countries willing to supply much oil, gas, and coal to the global market and with rising exploration costs, the market may convince many oil & gas and coal firms to restrain anyway. With fracking and a large natural gas supply, coal and oil may yet be too expensive to invest in even with reduced regulations. But it appears that’s the direction of the new administration.

While this is happening on the federal level, it is certainly conceivable that states or groups of states will re-double their efforts to enforce meaningful environmental rules. However, with weak federal rules, one state’s lax rules could attract new businesses in place of a state with stricter rules to protect its public’s health.

And finally, there is the market. Many people were shocked by Trump’s electoral victory, but the sun still came out the next day, and with it solar and other renewable energy. While Trump has been critical of its implementation, the market has certainly favored this and being more energy efficient, as renewable power and energy efficiency programs have grown tremendously in the last few years. Renewable power is generally cheaper, growing in reliability, and reduced in cost compared to many fossil fuel applications. While dis-incentivizing these programs may set them back, positive results in the market should still attract business.

CCES can help you evaluate your company’s energy use and environmental impacts and can perform the technical aspects to determine compliance with current rules and develop opportunities to reduce your energy usage and diversifying sources, saving you money and decreasing business risk. Contact us today at 914-584-6720 or at karell@CCESworld.com.

Will US Publicly-Traded Firms Be Made To Submit Sustainability Reports?

The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is reviewing whether sustainability reports need to be prepared and submitted for publicly-traded companies. On April 13, 2016 the SEC issued a document seeking public comment on several hundred topics, including disclosure of company information relating to sustainability. The due date for comments has passed, and they are currently being reviewed. Might the SEC require publicly-traded firms to report on environmental and social goals and achievements?

Historically, the SEC has required disclosure of information only if such information is important to the reasonable investor; i.e., material information. Material meaning important for the investor in making an investment decision. More recently, the SEC has noted that the growing importance of sustainability and public policy information in investors’ voting and investment decisions. Therefore, the SEC is debating whether the growing interest makes the information “material”, and they wish to receive feedback.

If the SEC makes the decision in the affirmative, it will need to define what specific information a company would need to disclose as material. There is current voluntary sustainability disclosure, but some information is, in some cases, not useful to investors.
The SEC has previously issued guidance relating to one related issue: climate change. “Guidance Regarding Disclosures Related to Climate Change” (February 8, 2010). This guidance contains several disclosure requirements:

• Costs of compliance relating to environmental issues (costs, fines, reputation)

• Relevant legal cases involving potential fines or other penalties

• Specific climate change factors that might make an investment risky

• Potential climate change effects on company’s financial condition. Examples include: decreased demand for goods that cause high GHG emissions, availability of critical raw materials and/or water, and reputational risks.

• Physical effects of climate change on company assets.
Voluntary sustainability reporting goes beyond this to also include health & safety records, use of renewable energy, and social/labor issues, such as working conditions, gender/race equality, relations with local community, and other human rights issues.

The SEC has received hundreds of comments on this issue, ranging from industry arguing that sustainability data is not material to the opposite from the environmental community. Complicating this is the wide range of voluntary sustainability platforms that many companies have been using, some more effective at communicating meaningful information compared to others. It is likely that the SEC will require publicly-traded companies to compile and report sustainability data, but limited in form to what is considered material and critical for potential investors to make informed choices and for readers to more easily compare data between similar companies.

CCES has the experts to help your firm develop a sustainability program, including collecting meaningful information to determine your benefits of reaching goals and reporting them, as well. Contact us today at 914-584-6720 or at karell@ccesworld.com.

The Future Of Energy And Environment Policies Under The Next Administration

October 17, 2016

While most of the analysts predict a Clinton victory and Democratic administration, here are some thoughts about what a Trump administration might look like when it comes to energy/environmental policy and what may change in a Clinton Administration. As I have written in other blog articles, nothing here represents writing in favor or against a candidate or policies, but instead addresses future issues facing the energy/environmental professional.

Should There Be a Trump Administration.

Energy: Donald Trump has been severely critical of current energy and environmental policy and has stated he will reverse many of President Obama’s initiatives. During a May 26 speech, Trump reflected a desire to achieve US energy independence by reducing federal regulations on the energy industry, increase investments in fossil fuel development and infrastructure to bring it to market (such as supporting the Keystone Pipeline), and reduce federal investment in renewable energy, as he has criticized both solar and wind power. Trump also supports increased use of nuclear power.

Environment: Trump has stated he would rescind a number of President Obama’s cornerstone environmental and energy achievements, such as the Clean Power Plan. Trump has also specifically pointed to the Clean Water Act as another regulation he would greatly weaken if he were elected. Reversing or weakening these and other EPA rules would require EPA rulemaking, requiring a public notice process. A Trump Justice Department could just not defend these and other environmental rules as they are challenged in court by industry. Neither approach would ensure success, as environmental and other groups would surely marshal forces in defense of the rules. Furthermore, courts could rule that these regulations are valid, legal, and necessary.

Climate Change: Trump has stated on the campaign trail that climate change has not been proven. In a recent speech, he was more neutral about the topic, but has expressed the feeling that this is not a high priority. He has expressed his intention to withdraw the US from the recent Paris Climate Agreement. With the Paris Agreement officially ratified, it would be difficult to withdraw, although Trump could likely do as little as possible to implement the Agreement, which has flexible objectives and no enforcement mechanism.

Should There Be a Clinton Administration.

Energy: To enable energy independence, Hillary Clinton has outlined a wide ranging list of investments by the federal government, such as clean energy, upgrading energy infrastructure, promoting responsible domestic drilling for oil and natural gas, and building on many of the core energy and environmental programs of the Obama Administration, such as the Clean Power Plan and Paris Climate Agreement. Clinton has spoken out in favor of natural gas development, citing it as a bridge fuel in the transition away from coal, including supports for fracking, although she has stated that deference should be given to localities who wish to ban it in their communities. Despite the “all of the above” approach in energy development, Clinton has stated policies that would discourage coal as an energy source, unless acceptable environmental levels are met. Clinton issued an infrastructure plan, prioritizing the development and repair of large-scale energy infrastructure across the country. Clinton would likely seek to continue the current Administration’s strong support for renewable energy development, call the US a future clean energy “superpower.” Clinton’s specific plan increases the percentage of renewable generation to 25% of total national energy mix by 2025.

Environment: Clinton supports the Clean Power Plan and wants to expand it in other industries in order to implement “smart” pollution and efficiency standards. Clinton has given no specifics, but states she supports additional policies to reduce US greenhouse gas emissions.

Climate Change: A Clinton Administration has committed to continue to abide by the Paris Climate Agreement. The Democratic Party platform stated: “Democrats believe that carbon dioxide, methane, and other greenhouse gases should be priced to reflect their negative externalities, and to accelerate the transition to a clean energy economy.”

Control of Congress.

Remember that while the President wields considerable power through the EPA and DOE, control of Congress is certainly important, too, in “setting the tone”, promulgating new rules and funding existing agencies. Republican control of the Senate and perhaps the House is in play in the upcoming election. A Democratic control could dramatically change the policies of several related committees in the Senate and House.

Senator Lisa Murkowski, the current chair of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, has been a strong advocate of the “all of the above” approach to energy. She supports energy exploration on federal land, such as in her home state of Alaska. Senator Maria Cantwell is the ranking Democrat on this committee and would likely chair it if the Democrats take control of the Senate. She has billed herself as a champion of “smarter” energy policies to diversify energy sources and lower costs for consumers. Senator James Inhofe, the current chair of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, is a noted climate change skeptic and strongly supports scaling back environmental regulations and promoting greater domestic energy production. If the Senate flips to Democratic control, Senator Tom Carper is expected to chair this committee.

CCES can help you evaluate your company’s energy use and environmental impacts and can perform the technical aspects to determine compliance with current rules and develop opportunities to reduce your energy usage and diversifying sources, saving you money and decreasing business risk. Contact us today at 914-584-6720 or at karell@CCESworld.com.

First-in-the-Nation Climate Change Lawsuit Filed

The Conservation Law Foundation (CLF), a foundation specializing in environmental protection in New England through legal action, filed the first-in-the-nation lawsuit on Sept. 29, 2016 against ExxonMobil’s Everett, MA storage facility for its endangerment of communities in MA caused by its alleged disregard of future impacts of climate change. The lawsuit alleges violations of both the federal Clean Water Act and the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act. Now, before I go further, I want to make it clear that this article is written purely to inform readers of this lawsuit. I take no stand in favor or against it. To inform you that it is happening and may be the first of many civil lawsuits.

Earlier this year, a coalition of 17 attorneys general announced a campaign to hold fossil fuel companies accountable for allegedly deceiving customers, shareholders, and the public about climate risk. CLF is the first organization to file a civil lawsuit against such a firm for such an alleged deceit and not preparing for climate change impacts.

The lawsuit’s main allegation is that ExxonMobil has not adequately planned for the effects of climate change-influenced potential disasters, such as flooding of the Mystic River caused by sea level rise and extreme storms which could result in significant release of pollutants from the facility. The lawsuit claims that ExxonMobil has the obligation to study and reasonably prepare for such floods and adapt their processes to minimize releases caused by such future floods. The lawsuit is not attempting to require the facility to perform actions to reduce its actual greenhouse gas emissions.

Whatever the result of this and other lawsuits, one issue that will need to be resolved is the level of analysis of climate risk. It may not be proper for each property owner to develop its own estimate of potential sea level rise. Some type of standard or approved guidance is needed, whether it be FEMA flood maps or other information from the USEPA. Certainly, the facility, using any such standard properly, should therefore be exempt from such lawsuits in the future.

It will be interesting to see if this spurs on other citizen and/or government lawsuits on climate risk for many facilities around the country. Might litigants join forces and file a small number of such lawsuits, like tobacco litigation. This might spur reforms that at least will give a basis of how much (or little) a facility should do to address climate risk.

CCES has the experts to help your facility assess potential climate change impacts on your operations. Contact us today at 914-584-6720 or karell@ccesworld.com.

Is RGGI A Success?

When the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI), the cap and trade program for greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from large power plants in 9 Northeast states, was first implemented, the states in the group participated with trepidation. They all wanted a program that would be effective in reducing greenhouse gas emissions, encourage investment and implementation of renewable and other clean energy options, result in funds that would be invested in energy research and implementation of more efficient options to the public, and examine whether a carbon trading system can actually work. But would RGGI work and be a “laboratory”, a model for other states or the federal government to mimic. There were modest goals and flexible plans to allow goals to be met with as little financial damage or inconvenience as possible. The hope was that they would have early success and perhaps make adjustments with revised, “tougher” goals after the first few years and that other groups of states or the federal government would expand its provisions and goals into a nationwide movement.

The RGGI organization recently released a new report “The Investment of RGGI Proceeds Through 2014” (http://rggi.org/docs/ProceedsReport/RGGI_Proceeds_Report_2014.pdf).

Its conclusions:

• GHG emissions have decreased by over 45% since 2005. This occurred while the regional Gross Domestic Product increased by about 8% in that time period, and despite a major recession. One can have energy reduction and environmental progress, while economic growth occurs.

• The total value of RGGI investments reached $1.37 billion through 2014, money that would likely not been invested in energy or other research.

• 58% of RGGI investment went to energy efficiency, with an expected lifetime energy savings of $3.62 billion.

• 13% of RGGI investments went to clean and renewable energy research and other initiative, with an expected lifetime energy savings of $836 million.

In addition, RGGI achieved its GHG emission reduction goal of 10% reduction from the mid-2000’s baseline several years early. RGGI will almost certainly be modified and extended with the hope of bringing in power plants in other states for the benefit of all.

CCES can help your company become more energy efficient, saving major energy costs, extending the life of your equipment, and providing a productive work environment, raising productivity. CCES can find you the government incentives out there and low-cost financing to make the numbers very powerful for your organization. Contact us today at 914-584-6720 or at karell@CCESworld.com.

Trend Toward Healthier Buildings

A new report issued by the US Green Building Council and Dodge Data & Analytics finds growing understanding and acceptance by building owners that buildings built or redesigned to improve the health of the occupants drives major business benefits.

“The Drive Toward Healthier Buildings 2016” (https://analyticsstore.construction.com/smartmarket-reports/HealthierBuildings16SMR.html) finds that the design and construction industry in the US is moving toward wider adoption of building practices that prioritize the physical and mental well-being of tenants and occupants. The report found that 75% of US building owners surveyed want to invest in healthier buildings as a way to improve employee or tenant satisfaction.
Constructing healthier buildings for occupants was of interest to about two-thirds of US building owners, although, not surprisingly, this paled in comparison to the percentage of owners who were interested in cost savings (85%).

Asked what design options would result in a healthier building, the only option that a majority of US building owners recognized as effective is improved ventilation. A majority of building owners were not aware that the following are also effective options:

• proper site selection,

• improved daylighting,

• layout that encourages physical activity,

• usage of healthier product usage (such as cleaning solutions), and

• improved thermal and acoustical comfort.

This is at odds with the design community, who are aware of the effectiveness of these features. This indicates that more education of the real estate community is important.

Building owners, according to the survey, do recognize that such buildings will lead to improved employee satisfaction (79%), will result in the owners’ ability to increase leasing rates (73%), and achieve higher asset values (62%). However, about half of all building owners are unaware of whether any benefits to improve health have been achieved. Those that perform actions (measure light levels or air quality or perform employee/occupant surveys) are overwhelmingly satisfied that the upgrades have been successful in making tenants healthier, more satisfied, and more productive.

CCES has the experts to perform technical evaluations of how to upgrade your buildings to be healthier and to gain all the benefits that come with it (more desirable, greater asset value, etc). Contact us today at karell@CCESworld.com or 914-584-6720.